Missing with 5% hit.

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Missing with 5% hit.

#1 » Post by Folkk » 13 Oct 2015 16:15

5% Hit.
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Anyone else missing with specials?
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#2 » Post by benzviliran » 13 Oct 2015 16:26

If you ask me theres a problem with hit rating, i miss with my shadow priest which has 12% hit rating and another 3% from talent.

also in pvp my spells are being resisted and also miss while they dont have any kind of resistance. with priest it happens alot and also with feral druid and other classes.
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#3 » Post by cherno666 » 13 Oct 2015 16:28

for resist you need spell penetration cap
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#4 » Post by ItchyVortex » 13 Oct 2015 16:51

Hitrate is buggy as fuck in TC. Defense rating in pvp seems to increase the chance to be missed, there was a bug that pve hittable was being used in pvp (not sure if this is fixed) and more...

PS: These hit rate bugs arent new, they are at least 2 years old and happen on every TC server.
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#5 » Post by benzviliran » 13 Oct 2015 17:04

cherno666 wrote:for resist you need spell penetration cap
for resist but also targets without resistances at all are resisting spells which shouldnt happen, spell penetration only reduce resist if there is resist it doesnt reduce it below 0%
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#6 » Post by Doctor_J » 13 Oct 2015 17:06

One question are you dual-welding weapons as this is meant to have a penalty on hit rating http://www.wowhead.com/spell=30798/dual-wield#comments and http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Hit and hit rating decreases chance to miss rather than chance to hit or should not sure if works exactly as should.

Hit refers to physical damage that occurs as a result of an attack made with melee or ranged weapons. Basically it reduces the chance to miss with your attack (see below). Patch 4.0.1 decreased the required rating per 1% slightly. The chance to hit now increases by 1% per 30.7548 hit rating points at level 80, 14.7905 hit rating points at level 70, and 9.3793 hit rating points at level 60. The base chance to miss against an opponent of equal level is 5% for single wield and 24% for dual wield. With Patch 3.0, both hit and spell hit use the same basic hit rating attribute within the combat rating system, although the similarity largely ends there — they are effectively distinct attributes derived from the same rating.
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#7 » Post by Folkk » 13 Oct 2015 17:40

Doctor_J wrote:One question are you dual-welding weapons as this is meant to have a penalty on hit rating http://www.wowhead.com/spell=30798/dual-wield#comments and http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Hit and hit rating decreases chance to miss rather than chance to hit or should not sure if works exactly as should.

Hit refers to physical damage that occurs as a result of an attack made with melee or ranged weapons. Basically it reduces the chance to miss with your attack (see below). Patch 4.0.1 decreased the required rating per 1% slightly. The chance to hit now increases by 1% per 30.7548 hit rating points at level 80, 14.7905 hit rating points at level 70, and 9.3793 hit rating points at level 60. The base chance to miss against an opponent of equal level is 5% for single wield and 24% for dual wield. With Patch 3.0, both hit and spell hit use the same basic hit rating attribute within the combat rating system, although the similarity largely ends there — they are effectively distinct attributes derived from the same rating.
I'm talking about specials here, not normal attacks. You should never miss with specials in pvp with 5% hit.
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#8 » Post by Supernova » 13 Oct 2015 18:33

With wich skill did u miss
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#9 » Post by ItchyVortex » 13 Oct 2015 18:45

Supernova wrote:With wich skill did u miss
Ive seen tons of different skills missing on PvP situations that should never miss, doesnt matter class, doesnt matter dual wield, doesnt matter physical or magical.
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#10 » Post by Supernova » 13 Oct 2015 18:51

Disarms sometimes go nowhere and its not any kind of avoidance
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#11 » Post by Ancestor » 13 Oct 2015 19:12

smn should try dummy also, i remember missing ss and ps also a lot lately

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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#12 » Post by Folkk » 13 Oct 2015 19:17

Supernova wrote:With wich skill did u miss
Really? I made this topic as simple as I could....
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#13 » Post by Wilcox » 13 Oct 2015 20:10

i've also been experiencing this and I thought it was just me / something with my stats

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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#14 » Post by benzviliran » 13 Oct 2015 22:00

Should a dk or pala be able to resist to cyclone btw? i mean cyclone is counted as a spell that is based on nature and should be resisted by nature resist?

i dont see a reason why sometimes i miss with disarm or mind shear or my cyclone being resisted by 0 resist player and many other spells who im not sure if they should have any chance to miss or being resisted normaly
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Re: Missing with 5% hit.

#15 » Post by ItchyVortex » 13 Oct 2015 22:51

Perhaps AMS?
On the paladin case... if its blood elves they got 2% chance to make spells miss and rets have 4% from Divine Purpose.
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