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[TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 10:39
by loveable
hello
im about to make Immortal run soon
if u would join this run send a mail in game to "Ghoststray" and type ur spec in it

1st requirment is: u Must have x4 pice of Frost Resist gear :
"Chest" , "Feet" , "Waist" , "Finger"
probably we go with less than 20 man for this raid , so to avoid wipe on saphy , we go for 500~550 frost resist with buff's


2nd requirment is: u must have Proper DBM , so u've to check ur dbm in naxx 10 to see is it proper ? or no

3rd requirment is: u must know basic knowledge about fight's , it doesnt mean tactic , u must know which spell's boss will use and how is their effect or healers must know how to heal at pathwerk or Etc (basic boss's mechanic)

The run will be At 17 or 18 or 19 Svt , but still i didnt decide about Date , So just send mail in game , ill tell u Date by mail and this threat

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 10:44
by Gnurg
You don't really need FR gear for Sapphiron. Rather just burst him down. Kel'Thuzad's mind control is what you should worry about, everything else is a cakewalk.

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 11:00
by loveable
last year i tried it we cleared 3 quart as well , but at saphy in air transition we got x4 Chill (5,550 to 6,450 = 24k per 2 sec on raid) , so some ppl died at transition , cuz we had 3 heal

beside kite tactic need practice , so we cant do it in right way with a random raid in 1 try

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 11:08
by Joh0239
Sounds good! Will probably join it! Can horde send mail to alliance now with CF?

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 11:36
by blagovest_tonev
Joh0239 wrote:Sounds good! Will probably join it! Can horde send mail to alliance now with CF?
Yes, you can send mails to each other.

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 12:19
by Triblatri
We can do first sapp in case we wipe to reset

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 12:32
by Fastor
Dont forget to call Belendor.

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 13:29
by Wilcox
i can tank it.

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 16 Mar 2017 15:04
by Gnurg
Hmm, I never had any issue with Sapphiron besides when frost tombs worked 100 %, 60 % of the time.

I can join with my shaman as RDPS, but I will not bring any FR gear, so it's up to you if you want me or not.

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 09:52
by loveable
Gnurg wrote:Hmm, I never had any issue with Sapphiron besides when frost tombs worked 100 %, 60 % of the time.

I can join with my shaman as RDPS, but I will not bring any FR gear, so it's up to you if you want me or not.
well im sure last time u did naxx 25 in tw was when u got immortal before tons of update happen on it
we did one naxx y-day for fun , if u was there u could see , x4 chill happend at same time , well with 25/25 geared raid its ok cuz u can use 5 geared heal to over heal raid , but comon u espect it fromh a random raid and less than 5 heal ?
already i said , im sure something is wrong with saphi after those updates

"if errorista see this , please check boss proximity , its like 40 or 50 yard or more, if u move from enterance boss will pull"

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 10:24
by Gadoschi
sapphiron is supposed to have huge threat range - it was like that since wotlk naxx was launched by blizzard

boss would aggro almost as soon as you left the platform

also, i agree with recommendation to do sapphiron and KT first

sapphiron is tricky and can bug, as for KT - once phase 2 starts, you have 90 seconds to burst him down before first MC is cast, not to mention people dying to shadow fissure

after those 2 are successfully killed without anyone dying, I would recommend doing Intstructor Razuvious next.

i will be coming with holy paladin (Paleadin)

what time and day are you planning the run for?

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 11:31
by loveable
Gadoschi wrote:what time and day are you planning the run for?
when i find enough for this , ill decide about date
i know some nice tactic for other boss's , specialy for thadius
i onlyscare about saphi and patchwerk , well rly is not hard to farm 4 frost resist gear , why we dont do it in a safe way and 1 shot ? im sure u know some ppl will leav after few wipe :lol:
Kt is not hard too , its kinda static fight except red circle and mana detr , so we can brust boss before MC
we can change our char's for this achiev, so i dont care about rest boss's like Heigan as we can log mdps to skip transition

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 11:38
by Gadoschi
Are you sure you can change your character?

Don't you need all 15 bosses killed with the same character in the same ID for Immortal to count for you specifically (kinda like farming T3 on TW)?

About those "some ppl" who leave after 1-2 wipes - do you really need them in your achievement run?

Next, not even 550 frost resistance can prevent death from frost breath (bomb), and it is possible for someone to be slowed by the chill and not be able to hide in time.

If we get 4 strong healers in 20-21 player raid, we will be able to heal it easily.

As for bursting Sapphiron and KT - it's not as easy as it looks - I tried it a few months ago in a full 25-man raid with many icc25hc geared players, and we still didn't manage to kill Sapphiron before air phase; and KT - we used BL at the start of P2, and he didn't die before MC, when we lost 3-4 players (who were killed by mind controlled players).

Finally, regarding Frost Tombs on Sapphiron - it was noticed back in early WotLK days on Blizzard that Frost Tomb CAN bug and not provide LoS protection if it is located on the elevated area of the circle. Lower circle area is safe in regard to Frost Tomb positioning.

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 12:04
by loveable
Gadoschi wrote:Are you sure you can change your character?
yes , u can do all boss's with 1 char , then change at last boss for achiev
Gadoschi wrote:About those "some ppl" who leave after 1-2 wipes - do you really need them in your achievement run?
yes, there is not many interest for achievment at all , and we have low pop this days
Gadoschi wrote:If we get 4 strong healers in 20-21 player raid, we will be able to heal it easily.
with 550 frost resist or more we take 80~89% less damage, we don't need to escape from chill like hell ^_^ we can move slowly and dps while healers can heal us beside we dont need to speared for airpahse cuz Frost bolt does 6,300 to 7,700 Frost damage so even if some ppl stack and all of them become tomb , they can survive under heal , but at all my tactic is stack on left boss leg and rotating so we will have chill 24/7 on half of ranged but more dps on boss to kill it faster , also "Life Drain" is shadow damage , so with a pala buff we can ignore it too (Pony aura + shadow resist aura + frost resist aura for this tactic)
Gadoschi wrote:As for bursting Sapphiron and KT - it's not as easy as it looks.
we'll use Eq manager for weapons and druid's for cyclone , so we'll look dbm and we put our weapons in our bags like Lady tactic and our dudu's will cyclone mced ppl
Gadoschi wrote:Finally, regarding Frost Tombs on Sapphiron - it was noticed back in early WotLK days on Blizzard that Frost Tomb CAN bug and not provide LoS protection if it is located on the elevated area of the circle.
yes it happend to me once before in gnurg raid :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: [TW] Immortal

Posted: 17 Mar 2017 12:07
by Wilcox
naxxramas was built to protect kel'thuzad from me