[Shaman] Fire Totems, Incorrectly Considered as Pets

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[Shaman] Fire Totems, Incorrectly Considered as Pets

#1 » Post by Discarnate » 23 Aug 2013 01:44

Abilities: Magma Totem, Searing Totem, Fire Elemental Totem

Bug: Fire totems are considered pets even though they shouldn't be as of 3.3.5a. Their damage output should be counted as the Shaman's directly such as addons like Recount should be showing Magma/Searing/Fire Elemental totem damage output directly inside Shaman's personal damage distribution section instead of creating a separate pet section.

Effect: Although having the totems as pets wouldn't cause a lot of practice problems (except for some threat issues and low DPS visibility on Recounts that don't have pets enabled), at the moment, pet's Crit/Hit scaling with master is bugged. Now, that's a whole another bug. But, a Shaman doesn't need to deal with that since his totems shouldn't even be pets to begin with. So, scaling isn't a question. The totems should always follow his own Spell Crit/Hit just like Flame Shock, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock, etc. Since it's bugged either way, a Magma Totem (essential for Enhancement PvE) produces close to half of its supposed damage.

Sources: https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore/issues/3470, https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore/issues/4728, https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore/issues/8198
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Re: [Shaman] Fire Totems, Incorrectly Considered as Pets

#2 » Post by Eisen » 23 Aug 2013 08:29

If Magma's nerfed, I want a fix! D:

I suppose this is also what makes it super difficult to farm/aoe while solo on shaman. Since the damage caused by fire totems isn't counted as damage by the shaman, the totem gets aggro, thus getting 1shotted by mobs and the like. This is in a sense crippling shamans compared to other classes when it comes to farming because they only have 1 "true" aoe spell, namely fire nova and that is most effective on Magma since that also does aoe damage. True if you drop magma and then cast nova before magma has it's 1st tick this can be avoided in some cases. But when pulling large numbers of mobs this is unreliable and you generally waste a lot of mana dropping the totem over and over again because it keeps dying.
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Re: [Shaman] Fire Totems, Incorrectly Considered as Pets

#3 » Post by chickenbutt » 01 Oct 2013 08:09

^everything this
Discarnate wrote:Since it's bugged either way, a Magma Totem (essential for Enhancement PvE) produces close to half of its supposed damage
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Re: [Shaman] Fire Totems, Incorrectly Considered as Pets

#4 » Post by chickenbutt » 23 Oct 2013 18:03

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