[Accepted] [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#16 » Post by Boxis » 29 May 2016 15:04

Dr. Who wrote:on retail it works like this:

1 hand weapons:
(Mace - Axe - Swords)

2 hand weapons:
(Mace - Axe - Swords)
(Polearm - Staff)
(Bow - Gun - Crossbow)

Restrictions:
Daggers, fists, wands, shields, and off-hands can only be mogged with items of the same type
you still must be able to equip both weapons normally.

transmog is not blizzlike in WOTLK soo if we are doing it at least lets do it right. ^_^
+1 for this suggestion only.

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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#17 » Post by Fastor » 29 May 2016 15:22

Longi wrote:c´mon give swords for druids :D
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#18 » Post by testeromir » 29 May 2016 15:25

+1
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#19 » Post by Gnurg » 29 May 2016 15:38

Gnurg wrote:*As all other transmog items, you would have to be able to equip the item if you want to transmog it. i.e. Shaman wouldn't get to transmog a mace to a sword as shamans can't use swords.
Added this one to the main post for clarification. I thought it was generally known already.
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#20 » Post by Gnurg » 29 May 2016 16:22

We will keep this open for feedback until 04.06 and see how it stands in a week's time.

For now, it seems the majority is in favour of adding this.

A few possible alterations to be dicussed:
  • Allowing staves and poleaxes in 2-hander pool. (Mortium)
  • Removing daggers and fist weapons from the 1-hander pool. (Longi, Boxis)
  • Allowing one-hand to be transmogged into main-hand weapons. (Regent)
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#21 » Post by keez » 29 May 2016 16:36

Boxis wrote:
Dr. Who wrote:on retail it works like this:

1 hand weapons:
(Mace - Axe - Swords)

2 hand weapons:
(Mace - Axe - Swords)
(Polearm - Staff)
(Bow - Gun - Crossbow)

Restrictions:
Daggers, fists, wands, shields, and off-hands can only be mogged with items of the same type
you still must be able to equip both weapons normally.

transmog is not blizzlike in WOTLK soo if we are doing it at least lets do it right. ^_^
+1 for this suggestion only.
same

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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#22 » Post by Gnurg » 29 May 2016 16:57

keez wrote:
Boxis wrote:
Dr. Who wrote:on retail it works like this:

1 hand weapons:
(Mace - Axe - Swords)

2 hand weapons:
(Mace - Axe - Swords)
(Polearm - Staff)
(Bow - Gun - Crossbow)

Restrictions:
Daggers, fists, wands, shields, and off-hands can only be mogged with items of the same type
you still must be able to equip both weapons normally.

transmog is not blizzlike in WOTLK soo if we are doing it at least lets do it right. ^_^
+1 for this suggestion only.
same
The only difference from the original suggestion is the removal of daggers and fist weapons from the 1-hander pool. What actually makes you favour this over the original suggestion? Is it because it's correct according to Blizzards way of doing it? @Keez, Boxis.
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#23 » Post by Boxis » 29 May 2016 17:01

Seems completely illogical to me to be able to mix dagger's models with axes, or fist weapon with mace, even, if you are able to equip both of them. It is okay to be able to transmog off-hand dagger into main hand one, or main hand into one hand, but that's about it.

Just my opinion.

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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#24 » Post by Gnurg » 29 May 2016 17:08

Boxis wrote:Seems completely illogical to me to be able to mix dagger's models with axes, or fist weapon with mace, even, if you are able to equip both of them. It is okay to be able to transmog off-hand dagger into main hand one, or main hand into one hand, but that's about it.

Just my opinion.
Okay, thanks for proper feedback. :)

I'd favour if people would add a reasoning behind their feedback like Boxis did here. Especially if you want an alteration from the original suggestion.
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#25 » Post by Folkk » 29 May 2016 19:12

+1 to what dr.who said. Backstabing with a mace would just feel stupid
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#26 » Post by Gnurg » 29 May 2016 19:43

Folkk wrote:+1 to what dr.who said. Backstabing with a mace would just feel stupid
Would you mind if others backstabbed you with a mace (I don't think you would notice?) or is it when you're using it yourself you see it as problem? Considering it's up to yourself if you want to transmog your dagger to a mace.
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#27 » Post by Folkk » 29 May 2016 20:24

Gnurg wrote:
Folkk wrote:+1 to what dr.who said. Backstabing with a mace would just feel stupid
Would you mind if others backstabbed you with a mace (I don't think you would notice?) or is it when you're using it yourself you see it as problem? Considering it's up to yourself if you want to transmog your dagger to a mace.
Hey. you wanted a reason and I gave it. It would look too silly in my opinion. Nothing more to it.
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#28 » Post by Gnurg » 29 May 2016 23:16

Patch 6.0.2 (2014-10-14): Polearms and Staves can now be used to transmogrify Two-Handed Axes, Maces and Swords, and vice versa.
I suppose we could add these two to the 2-hander pool then.

As for the dagger exclusion, it seems that it's primarily related to it having silly attack animations (like backstab). What we could do: only make it possible for caster daggers to be transmogged to mace/sword/axe. Afaik, all main-hand daggers are caster daggers and all caster daggers are main-hand daggers, which makes it possible to filter it out using main-hand dagger as the filter. Is this something you could settle for? @Folkk, @Boxis
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#29 » Post by Gnurg » 01 Jun 2016 13:18

Need more feedback! If you want any of the alterations, please give us some insight in why you would like it. i.e. back stab animation when dagger -> mace.

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Gnurg wrote:We will keep this open for feedback until 04.06 and see how it stands in a week's time.

For now, it seems the majority is in favour of adding this.

A few possible alterations to be dicussed:
Removing daggers and fist weapons from the 1-hander pool. (Dr. Who, Boxis)
The suggestion above, but keep it possible for caster daggers (main-hand daggers) to be transmogged to axe/mace/sword. (Gnurg)
Allowing one-hand to be transmogged into main-hand weapons. (Regent)
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Re: [TW] Mix Weapon Type Transmog

#30 » Post by baran15 » 01 Jun 2016 16:10

I'm against it simply because it forces people to get creative with their sets, which has nice outcomes sometimes. And it's more likely to see something new because of this, which is always a good thing.

However if it's going to happen, should happen like retail, like Dr.Who stated:
Dr. Who wrote:on retail it works like this:

1 hand weapons:
(Mace - Axe - Swords)

2 hand weapons:
(Mace - Axe - Swords)
(Polearm - Staff)
(Bow - Gun - Crossbow)

Restrictions:
Daggers, fists, wands, shields, and off-hands can only be mogged with items of the same type
you still must be able to equip both weapons normally.
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Gnurg wrote:
Dr. Who wrote:
Gnurg wrote:How come daggers and fist weapons are seperated? I understand the others, but not those.
dont ask me. its blizzard rules. :?
I don't see any harm in mixing in those two with the other 1-handers even if it's not correct by retail's transmog options.
A reason to not mix fist weapons and daggers are mainly because of enhancement shamans and assasination rogues. Shamans would look stupid with daggers, and assasination rogues would look stupid with fist weapons. (plus assasination rogues don't deserve the cool looking fist weapons)
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