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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#1 » Post by Polkic » 02 Jul 2014 00:11

A bit offtopic;
toamuka wrote:If only wintergrasp quests were fixed and were actually daily rather than weekly.
http://www.truewow.org/bugs/view.php?id=559
This has been looked up and we have came to agreement that we will not change that yet, till WG gets functional. You can already get allot from WG and we dont want to make it too easy.
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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#2 » Post by Kniteknite » 02 Jul 2014 03:20

meaning the WG bg locks out the zone when it's functional and started , so it cuts the amount of time players have to do 'dailies' there, right?
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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#3 » Post by Nyeriah » 02 Jul 2014 03:37

No, only the controlling faction should have access to vendors, dailies and Vault of Archavon, so there was supposed to be a balance between factions as they alternate control, but currently that doesn't happen.

We are afraid that seeing we already have VoA open at all times, giving a free source of honor might as well make people lose interest in joining bgs.

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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#4 » Post by Mojolicious » 02 Jul 2014 04:40

Nyeriah wrote:No, only the controlling faction should have access to vendors, dailies and Vault of Archavon, so there was supposed to be a balance between factions as they alternate control, but currently that doesn't happen.
add-it: only the current champion faction is able to see and farm elemental revenants
(source: http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp - 'Level 80 elementals of all known kinds (earth, fire, water, air, shadow, life) wander in various areas. The side that controls Wintergrasp Keep will be able to see elemental Revenants, with roughly twice as much health as the regular elementals and a guaranteed droprate for crystallized elements...')


tnxalot for the guide, i'll link it to gearless people in bg's from now on. :)

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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#5 » Post by ilyailyailya » 02 Jul 2014 08:58

Nyeriah wrote:No, only the controlling faction should have access to vendors, dailies and Vault of Archavon, so there was supposed to be a balance between factions as they alternate control, but currently that doesn't happen.

We are afraid that seeing we already have VoA open at all times, giving a free source of honor might as well make people lose interest in joining bgs.
Err.. I thought that when you lose the NPCs of your faction move to a nearby "camp" and from there you're able to take dailies, no?
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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#6 » Post by Nyeriah » 02 Jul 2014 09:04

Not sure but anyway
Wrath-Logo-Small Patch 3.1.2 (2009-05-19): The Wintergrasp daily quests are now weekly, but has an increased gain of honor and [Stone Keeper's Shards].
http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp

and I'm sorry for hijacking Fastor's thread

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#7 » Post by cang » 02 Jul 2014 10:09

Nyeriah wrote:Not sure but anyway
Wrath-Logo-Small Patch 3.1.2 (2009-05-19): The Wintergrasp daily quests are now weekly, but has an increased gain of honor and [Stone Keeper's Shards].
http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp

and I'm sorry for hijacking Fastor's thread
countered with this - http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.2.2
All Lake Wintergrasp weekly quests have been changed to a daily format again.
8-)

also this - http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp_quests
Patch 3.2.2 (2009-09-22): No longer resets every five days and becomes daily again.

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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#8 » Post by toamuka » 02 Jul 2014 12:54

cang wrote:
Nyeriah wrote:Not sure but anyway
Wrath-Logo-Small Patch 3.1.2 (2009-05-19): The Wintergrasp daily quests are now weekly, but has an increased gain of honor and [Stone Keeper's Shards].
http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp

and I'm sorry for hijacking Fastor's thread
countered with this - http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.2.2
All Lake Wintergrasp weekly quests have been changed to a daily format again.
8-)

also this - http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp_quests
Patch 3.2.2 (2009-09-22): No longer resets every five days and becomes daily again.
you fucker i wanted to post that shit, that's why i baited with just "WG is buggereded"

Yeah WoW-wiki is somewhat inconsistent with how it tells things, i posted a full report here http://www.truewow.org/bugs/view.php?id=559

it is a copy and paste from my previous server but the quest IDs are the same as any 3.3.5 client.


Polkic wrote:A bit offtopic;
toamuka wrote:If only wintergrasp quests were fixed and were actually daily rather than weekly.
http://www.truewow.org/bugs/view.php?id=559
This has been looked up and we have came to agreement that we will not change that yet, till WG gets functional. You can already get allot from WG and we dont want to make it too easy.

Daily quests proven to be blizzlike now, also it doesnt make it easy, WG is still a pvp zone and i kill 3-5 hordes doing my weekly quest-runs but i never wear pvp gear, make it daily = more compeition = more skeletons on map = WG becomes BG without objective = Farming x1000 harder = AH prices on Eternals go up and down like crazy because people are farming mobs now = Economics

plz for the economics

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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#9 » Post by Fastor » 02 Jul 2014 13:09

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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#10 » Post by HeadOwn » 02 Jul 2014 13:21

@toamuka, WG quests should be dailies when u r not 80, but when u r 80 they become weeklies, when u do them b4 80 it counts on daily quests achievements but when u do them on 80 then they don't even count as dailies.
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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#11 » Post by toamuka » 02 Jul 2014 13:28

HeadOwn wrote:@toamuka, WG quests should be dailies when u r not 80, but when u r 80 they become weeklies, when u do them b4 80 it counts on daily quests achievements but when u do them on 80 then they don't even count as dailies.

No. Quests don't change for levels otherwise there'd be two instances of the quest in the DB, one for Daily and one for weekly, the quests only have one entity each, with the exception of one.

They should all be daily, otherwise provide your source with 3.2.2 patch



Edit: they don't count as dailies because they are tagged in TW DB as weeklies.

Edit: Suggestion: If Factions aren't balanced why not just have a "custom" spawn or work-around, i.e. have a permanent spawned WG vendor in each of the Horde/Ally camps, to me it's as hacky as making WG quests weekly instead of daily because its "too easy to get pvp gear" yet it is a purely blizzlike feature in 3.3.5 ( as brought in from the 3.2.2 patch but only removed in Catacylsm patch.)

Edit: Imo the only thing making quests daily will just make Eternals be more fluent, aswell as questing heirlooms and less greenys in BGs, and ofcourse Gems being cheaper on the AH, as a newcomer it's cheaper to level JWC to max for your own JWC as gems are expensive as the only way to get them is do BGs or farm dungeons for a long time
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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#12 » Post by HeadOwn » 02 Jul 2014 13:31

ilyailyailya wrote:
Nyeriah wrote:No, only the controlling faction should have access to vendors, dailies and Vault of Archavon, so there was supposed to be a balance between factions as they alternate control, but currently that doesn't happen.

We are afraid that seeing we already have VoA open at all times, giving a free source of honor might as well make people lose interest in joining bgs.
Err.. I thought that when you lose the NPCs of your faction move to a nearby "camp" and from there you're able to take dailies, no?
Yeah, only the faction holding WG will be able to see NPCs and take the weeklies from the fortress, the faction that is not controlling has a special camp where u can get the weeklies, do them but u can't buy anything from the vendors, the horde camp is more to the left side of the map, and the alliance comp is at the right side, and what Nyeriah said is correct, having WG will make ppl lose the interest in BGs, especially that we don't have a balanced faction yet, we (hordes) used to control WG 24/7 on my last server cuz we had a higher amount of players, so alliance passed 2 weeks without a single VoA, they used to cap it at the late night as a guild just to do VoA, other than that, it was ours, also, adding that only the faction controlling WG will be able to get Stone Keeper's Shards in northrend dungeons, let's say horde is controlling, horde will get SKS in NR dungeons and the alliance won't.
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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#13 » Post by HeadOwn » 02 Jul 2014 13:45

toamuka wrote:
HeadOwn wrote:@toamuka, WG quests should be dailies when u r not 80, but when u r 80 they become weeklies, when u do them b4 80 it counts on daily quests achievements but when u do them on 80 then they don't even count as dailies.

No. Quests don't change for levels otherwise there'd be two instances of the quest in the DB, one for Daily and one for weekly, the quests only have one entity each, with the exception of one.

They should all be daily, otherwise provide your source with 3.2.2 patch



Edit: they don't count as dailies because they are tagged in TW DB as weeklies.

Edit: Suggestion: If Factions aren't balanced why not just have a "custom" spawn or work-around, i.e. have a permanent spawned WG vendor in each of the Horde/Ally camps, to me it's as hacky as making WG quests weekly instead of daily because its "too easy to get pvp gear" yet it is a purely blizzlike feature in 3.3.5 ( as brought in from the 3.2.2 patch but only removed in Catacylsm patch.)
Every single server that I played WG quests were dailies b4 80 but they gave less SKS and less honor, when u reach 80 they turn to weeklies, and no, I don't trust anything but 3.3.5a, when I tried to provide a patch note about BS dmg that was not 3.3.5a nobody took in consideration, same went when I reported glyph of sunder armor bug, few hours later my report was already locked on the bugtracker, so pls, provide us a 3.3.5a patch note about WG quests being dailies and ask the staff to change it
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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#14 » Post by toamuka » 02 Jul 2014 14:01

HeadOwn wrote:
toamuka wrote:
HeadOwn wrote:@toamuka, WG quests should be dailies when u r not 80, but when u r 80 they become weeklies, when u do them b4 80 it counts on daily quests achievements but when u do them on 80 then they don't even count as dailies.

No. Quests don't change for levels otherwise there'd be two instances of the quest in the DB, one for Daily and one for weekly, the quests only have one entity each, with the exception of one.

They should all be daily, otherwise provide your source with 3.2.2 patch



Edit: they don't count as dailies because they are tagged in TW DB as weeklies.

Edit: Suggestion: If Factions aren't balanced why not just have a "custom" spawn or work-around, i.e. have a permanent spawned WG vendor in each of the Horde/Ally camps, to me it's as hacky as making WG quests weekly instead of daily because its "too easy to get pvp gear" yet it is a purely blizzlike feature in 3.3.5 ( as brought in from the 3.2.2 patch but only removed in Catacylsm patch.)
Every single server that I played WG quests were dailies b4 80 but they gave less SKS and less honor, when u reach 80 they turn to weeklies, and no, I don't trust anything but 3.3.5a, when I tried to provide a patch note about BS dmg that was not 3.3.5a nobody took in consideration, same went when I reported glyph of sunder armor bug, few hours later my report was already locked on the bugtracker, so pls, provide us a 3.3.5a patch note about WG quests being dailies and ask the staff to change it

It says in patch 3.2.2 they were daily

IT says in patch 4.0.3 they were made weekly

WHAT EVIDENCE MORE DO YOU NEED?

HOW DENSE CAN YOU BE?

http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp_quests

http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp_quests

http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp_quests

http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp_quests

http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintergrasp_quests
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Re: How to: Get PvP Gear

#15 » Post by Polkic » 02 Jul 2014 14:28

Decision has been made, till WG works they will remain weeklies. Consider it similar as ICC buff, we dont have full active till we release RS.

I also apologize to Fastor for making such a mess in his clean topic.
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